1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Okay, we'd like to get a rundown of what's happening down there. 2 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:37,000 Well, as soon as it landed over there, the coyotes were calling and calling and calling, and they just stopped. 3 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:41,000 They didn't hear nothing into the woods. We're used to the woods. We know the woods. 4 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:46,000 And like, very few people even go to these woods at night, but we do. But anyways, it all stopped. 5 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:50,000 So we just bypassed it as maybe something that, you know, we're not sure what we saw. 6 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:55,000 It could have been a falling star. Well, last night, they were standing out in the yard, about 10.30. 7 00:00:55,000 --> 00:01:00,000 They came across the sky and did a few zig-zags and went over and it landed again. 8 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:07,000 Well, when it landed, we watched and watched and watched for it to leave or whatever it was going to do, but it never did. 9 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:11,000 So by an hour and a half later, we heard this sound coming out of the woods. 10 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,000 Now I live up into the woods. We're in the best property. 11 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:19,000 And right across the fence line, you hear there's a sound coming. There was no animal. 12 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:23,000 Like I've ever heard in the woods. It sounded to me, my brother's in the computer, 13 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,000 and it sounded to me like some sophisticated piece of machinery. 14 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:32,000 And here last year, right across the street, on my neighbor's farm, one of his cows was immune-related. 15 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:39,000 His titties were cut off by a surgical knife. One of its ears, its tongue, its hands, what can I say, you know. 16 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:45,000 It was all surgically done. This was 30 years ago, and they got pictures of it over and over happening. 17 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:53,000 But this sound, it was up into the woods. The next thing, it was about two, three hundred feet from the house. 18 00:01:53,000 --> 00:02:00,000 And we just sat there listening to it, and it was bouncing around, but it was like hollow, coming out of a cave. 19 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,000 Well, there's no caves without just one thing. 20 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:06,000 And one minute, it'd be real close to it, just a few hundred feet away. 21 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,000 And the next minute, it would be kind of off into the woods. 22 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,000 And then what really bothered me, I wouldn't have thought too much about it. 23 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,000 I was pretty down about a little bit, and one time, it was back into the woods. 24 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:19,000 But that's wilderness. There's a hundred miles of wilderness area here. 25 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:24,000 And it's just, nobody goes in there at night because you've got to walk in. It's rattlesnake and busted. 26 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:28,000 It's all big lava rocks. It's got some of the other flows and stuff. 27 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:32,000 And you just don't go in there at night. You're supposed to keep, you know, if you don't know what to do, and you don't know these woods. 28 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:33,000 Yes. 29 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,000 And this scared the hell out of us. 30 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:39,000 But when my partner probably took the light, and he got tired of it, and he shined the light up into the woods. 31 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,000 It stopped. It completely stopped. 32 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,000 My hips were just healed again later, about two, three hours later, once or twice. 33 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,000 But finally, we just went to bed. But it was a scary situation. 34 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:53,000 We got goats and animals and stuff down here. My goats were nuts. They were crazy. 35 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:57,000 They wanted out of their pens. And, you know, animals have instinct. 36 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:03,000 And my animals, my goats, usually are calm at night. They never get up to sleep about nuts and nothing. 37 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,000 They're always sleeping bothers at night, and they rest easy. 38 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:11,000 Last night, they were just with nuts up all night, hitting the pens and trying to get out of the pens. 39 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:16,000 All my baby goats were bad, and crawling and crying and crying and crying for no real reason. 40 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,000 We thought there was no coyotes around, because my dogs hit them. 41 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:23,000 You hear this, but that's how you right now. My dogs were kind of a traitor when not come out. 42 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:29,000 But what I did, he would not come out. And he used to kind of dog, that he could get in the dog when the other one. 43 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,000 And of course, given them the words, that's kind of dog you got to have. 44 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:37,000 And it just, it's been here now. We saw it last night, the night before that we didn't see it, 45 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:41,000 but the night before that we saw it. But the night before, we wasn't outside either. 46 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:46,000 So it could have been here, or whatever. Now I haven't went up in the woods. I've checked around. 47 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:50,000 I haven't looked. I haven't done nothing to sleep about. I am not a brave person. 48 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:54,000 And there's never am going to go up in here unless I know exactly what's going on. 49 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,000 But we stood down here, and it got off of close to the trail there. 50 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:01,000 The pain is bright enough that we got our weapons out, and he was the news. 51 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:05,000 It was a chemistry yard, and I went and caught up with the door. I mean, I was feeling, I don't know what it was. 52 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:09,000 I got my wife and two babies and one on the way, and I don't know what the heck it is. 53 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:15,000 It's not human. It's not, it's like no one has found another seed. It doesn't hold. 54 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:19,000 It's like nothing I've never seen. It's like a big ball of fire coming out across the sky. 55 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:23,000 And it just, it just dropped, it just sat right down the ground. It didn't flop. 56 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:29,000 It just came down gentle and sat, and it was like deep, deep, thick, always green in color, 57 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:33,000 and a big, big, white ball from the dome on top of it. 58 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,000 And this is a night time what we saw on this. 59 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:39,000 Okay Bob, did that have a definite shape? 60 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:45,000 Well, the shape looked circular. I would say the estimation of the size to a top of the 61 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:49,000 position by the size of my tail up to 150 to cross. 62 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,000 It appeared to have a dome on top. 63 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:55,000 It appeared to have a bright, light dome on top of it. 64 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:59,000 It glowed like a brilliant, brilliant light. 65 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,000 That's what I was saying honestly about it. 66 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:05,000 First of all, we thought, well, it's a long star, because we have no love around here. 67 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,000 But there's no 12 behind it. 68 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:13,000 And you know, it don't just kind of come in several, probably several, or a big dot in a few seconds. 69 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:17,000 And only at first I thought, I was a little pale at the start too, 70 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,000 and I wasn't too sure, but when everybody saw it again last night, 71 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,000 and we heard those noises coming out of the rope. 72 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:28,000 It just, something like a big ball, it just, a roll. 73 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:32,000 How far, do you have any estimate on how far it was when it landed? 74 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,000 About a quarter of a mile. 75 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:36,000 Pardon? About a quarter of a mile. 76 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,000 Did you pick up any sound at all as it was coming in? 77 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,000 No, no sound. 78 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,000 Just go straight and we cut our eyes. 79 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,000 Did this thing come straight down or did it glide in? 80 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,000 It came straight down from the sky. 81 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:53,000 It stopped, made a, I guess it would be a very good left hand, complete left hand turn. 82 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,000 Went out across the sky and it set down. 83 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:57,000 Okay. 84 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,000 So, I'm sure it's got a fun start. 85 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,000 Did it use that same pattern when it came down the second time? 86 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:06,000 No, it came in roughly the same way, but not the same pattern. 87 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:12,000 The first time I saw it, it came in kind of at an angle, and then it leveled off and set down. 88 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:16,000 Okay, now, while all this was going on, were your animals acting up at the time? 89 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:22,000 My animals didn't really act up until last night until the sound got right down to my fence line. 90 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:27,000 Fence line was built in about a hundred feet from our top of the line. 91 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,000 And they couldn't, I know what they might have been able to see it. 92 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:36,000 We couldn't see anything, but we could hear it and like, it's hard to explain the sound. 93 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:43,000 It was like a bong, bong, and then it would just, like an echo. 94 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:48,000 But there's nothing here to create an echo like that, and not make it jump all over the woods. 95 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:54,000 And this is what I do. One minute we would hear it right on the fence line, and right up behind, we got big ponderosa trees. 96 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:58,000 And right behind the trees, the next minute, just a few seconds later, we'd do it again, 97 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:04,000 it would be another, oh, maybe 7,800 feet, 8,000 feet up on the hill, then it would be back down the hill. 98 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:10,000 Then you would hear it kind of coming down to the woods, and it would just stop being there quite a while, and I never heard anything like that. 99 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,000 Do they sound like a mechanical sound? 100 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:16,000 Yes, a sound. That's what bothers us. They sound mechanical. 101 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:22,000 And that's the reason, if we're going to have war for our coyote, or maybe we don't even have bears around here, though, 102 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:27,000 I thought to myself a bear, you know, because a bear can have strange bark. 103 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,000 But it don't have that mechanical sound. 104 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:34,000 You can hear it. I mean, it's a definite mechanical sound. 105 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:39,000 Okay, you're outdoors while all this is going on. Did you pick up any foul odor of any kind? 106 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:47,000 No. He picked up an odor. He picked up an unusual smell. No odor is out. 107 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:51,000 Okay, was there any special change in the atmosphere, temperature, or anything? 108 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:52,000 No. 109 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,000 Any mysterious winds? 110 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,000 No, it's the hot and dry out there. 111 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,000 But nothing out of the ordinary. 112 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,000 Nothing in the real deep dark. 113 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,000 Okay. 114 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,000 I know we just had the U.L. pier, but it's nothing really unusual. 115 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:08,000 Just the sound, though, is the most unusual thing. 116 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:12,000 I can't relate to anything because I've never heard nothing like it. 117 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:13,000 Right. 118 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:14,000 It's hard to explain. 119 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:15,000 Well, does this sound moved around? 120 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:20,000 Would it appear to you, in your opinion, that it was being directed more than anything? 121 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,000 Indeed. It was. Indeed it was. 122 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:29,000 Well, you know how you get various feelings about things, and that was something else. 123 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:33,000 It was just a kind of various feeling when something was wrong. 124 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,000 Did you have the feeling you were being watched? 125 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,000 We did. My heart stopped not telling. We just knew we were being watched. 126 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,000 Okay. 127 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:46,000 That's right. In fact, it was kind of off in the distance, I would say, in a couple of 128 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,000 minutes in the yard, until we walked outside. 129 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,000 What we did, we had some signs we had to go take down. 130 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,000 For the last time, we just went to check them down, and we lived along the roadway. 131 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:59,000 But anyway, as we walked back up, we heard it, and we had been talking to each other, 132 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,000 and we had heard it three or four times. 133 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,000 We thought, well, it might be the dog, but the dog was up there. 134 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,000 Besides, it came right down onto the fence line. 135 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,000 Never crossed the fence. 136 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,000 Never really came in across the fence. 137 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:14,000 But you knew it's spot behind the trees, and you can see it behind the trees, 138 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,000 especially it's one big tree out here. 139 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,000 Did you sign no movement at all out there? 140 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:23,000 No movement, but I did hear the brush break a couple of three times. 141 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:24,000 Uh-huh. 142 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:25,000 So that was nothing. 143 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,000 But also, we had cows over there, too, see. 144 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,000 But normally, a cow don't move at night. 145 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,000 It's characteristic for a cow. 146 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,000 A cow also doesn't come to think of it. 147 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:40,000 The first night that we saw it, a mama cow was baiting, she was calling her baby in, 148 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,000 and cried, and cried, and cried. 149 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,000 I don't know if it's me, it was talking about it. 150 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:48,000 But at night time, your cows just fell right down your chute, or whatever they are, 151 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,000 fell right down the tip mama, this is close to midnight. 152 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,000 They're just baiting, and baiting, and calling for her baby. 153 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,000 She bait, bait, bait for several hours. 154 00:09:55,000 --> 00:10:01,000 Of course, we don't go out and check them, but this guy has passed you next to her. 155 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:05,000 She has a bunch of mama cows and baby cows in there, and there's like 10000 acres roughly. 156 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,000 So, to give you an idea of how big the place is. 157 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:09,000 Yes. 158 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:14,000 Now, of course, ours is only a few acres, but we're out over here, but we live out of it. 159 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:18,000 It runs several hundred miles around us, it's just open wilderness land, 160 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:22,000 national pores, and one thing or another. 161 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:30,000 You know, I've seen undefined flying things in the sky before, but never enough to make that. 162 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:35,000 Okay, now, you have, there have been any reports of hairy creatures up around your area lately? 163 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:36,000 No, well, yes. 164 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:37,000 When I picked the things. 165 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:38,000 Yes. 166 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:42,000 And of course, we get them up here, but it wasn't a big, but we've heard bigfoot calls before, 167 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,000 and there's not a big, big, big fox in there. 168 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,000 No, there are big folks, got our high species, in fact, we almost take one right now. 169 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,000 You can hear them back off in the wilderness now, again. 170 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:54,000 And they do come through this time of year, but they'll make up. 171 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,000 You might understand, if any of them says you make a clear out, 172 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,000 but I've heard the high-pitched species, you've found that they'll put off the mating, 173 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:00,000 what they call the mating call. 174 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:01,000 Right, that is, right. 175 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:07,000 And it's a high-pitched, like something you've never heard before, but it's always been deep in the woods. 176 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:11,000 And they never, ever come down close to the house, ever. 177 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:15,000 And like, now here, three weeks, or a month ago, there was a lady, 178 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:19,000 suppose we got kidnapped 250 miles from here by one, but that was a big publicity stunt. 179 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:20,000 Right. 180 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:26,000 But, uh, supposedly, they don't come around this January or too much. 181 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:30,000 Okay, now, getting back to that first incident, was that on the Friday night, the night? 182 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,000 That was Thursday night, wasn't it? 183 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,000 Was it Thursday night? 184 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,000 Yes, it was Thursday night. 185 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,000 Thursday night, about 11 o'clock, I would say. 186 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,000 And, uh, nothing on Friday night? 187 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:47,000 Well, we went out, we got piloters coming down, and we were about in the start. 188 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,000 So we got to know what a barnacona is? 189 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:50,000 No. 190 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,000 Well, a barnacona is, it's what makes it, like a rabbit in distress. 191 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:54,000 Oh. 192 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:58,000 And so you just walk out into the woods, away, get you a nice rock and open spot, 193 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:02,000 start blowing that rabbit collar, and those piloters come right into you, but there's a few feet. 194 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,000 And we was calling them. 195 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:07,000 And we could hear them, they were baying, they were calling them, what they were doing, 196 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,000 they were calling the pack together to come in on it. 197 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,000 And we could hear them calling, and then we were sitting there waiting for them, 198 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:16,000 and they were howling, they were going, maybe, they'd get blocked away. 199 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:17,000 And they were coming in. 200 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:22,000 Then we seen this light, and the coyotes stopped making noise, and they'd make another sound. 201 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:27,000 And just, just with dead, not a sound, we said, about two and a half to three hours. 202 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:30,000 And not one came in, like one came out there right now. 203 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:34,000 Or I don't know about now, but usually I'd blow my rabbit, rabbit thing. 204 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,000 It's a close-by, what come I didn't do it to get that rabbit to eat. 205 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:41,000 Okay, now when that object came down, and you saw a settle down there, 206 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,000 it's a settle down on top of a hill. 207 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:48,000 Well, I live kind of on a hill, I live on the side of a hill. 208 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:52,000 And it looked like it sat down in the valley, it was a big reservoir over there. 209 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,000 It looked like it sat down by the reservoir. 210 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:58,000 Okay, now did it maintain its glowing condition while it was there, at all times? 211 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:02,000 When it sat down on the ground, it went down below the tree line and went out. 212 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,000 And I didn't see it no more. 213 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:05,000 And you didn't see it take off? 214 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:06,000 No, I didn't. 215 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,000 No, we took it for hours and watched it, and it never did take off. 216 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,000 No, and then the second incident was last night? 217 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,000 Oh, so the kid that was with me that night, before he saw something, 218 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:18,000 so he was putting it down, so we just kind of shined it out. 219 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,000 But it could have been possible. 220 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,000 Now we were about the world, before he saw something standing there by tree watching us. 221 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,000 Kind of a white thing. 222 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:30,000 We bright passed it because we didn't, you know, he was pretty young, about 12 years old. 223 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,000 Yes. 224 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,000 So we didn't pay much attention to it, now I don't know. 225 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,000 Now the second incident then occurred last night? 226 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:37,000 Yes, sir. 227 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:38,000 Okay. 228 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,000 And you didn't see that object take off either? 229 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:44,000 No, sir. 230 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:45,000 It came down in about the same area? 231 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:46,000 Yes, sir. 232 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:47,000 Okay. 233 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:48,000 Roughly in this engineering area. 234 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:49,000 Different pattern now. 235 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:54,000 Okay, is there anything on the way of a big power plant, up your way? 236 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,000 Generating stations, hydroelectric dams? 237 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:01,000 No, no hydroelectric dams, no big power stations. 238 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,000 There's one out there that's 50 miles from here. 239 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:05,000 Any military bases? 240 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:08,000 Also, my neighbor across the street seen this thing last night too. 241 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,000 But I called him and he said, you know, I saw that. 242 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,000 I saw that come across the sky. 243 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:15,000 So I asked somebody else he saw it too. 244 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:21,000 Because I called him because it looked like he was a man over by his nose. 245 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:25,000 And he said, no, they saw it and went right on down to the sky. 246 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,000 Because he was a big valley drop-off over here, the trees were big. 247 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:35,000 Once I was just behind the trees, it was just what it was doing. 248 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,000 It was kind of hard to see. 249 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,000 Have you ever thought of going over there and taking a look at that area? 250 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:41,000 Or was there any way of getting in? 251 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,000 Part of the training was getting in, but I'm not going over that time. 252 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,000 I mean, all things I am, it's a globe I'm not. 253 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:52,000 I just, I mean, I got a family there. 254 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:53,000 Nobody. 255 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,000 I'm not brave by a long time. 256 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,000 If it comes up on the property, you know, try to get in the trade or whatever. 257 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,000 I mean, I'm not going to protect myself from the bust of being there. 258 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:06,000 It's a big thing in the deals. 259 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,000 I got a funny deal that's going to be done tonight. 260 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:09,000 I wouldn't do it. 261 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:10,000 I don't know why. 262 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,000 I just got a funny deal and it's a, I don't know why a file for it, 263 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,000 but I just got a funny deal and it's going to be done tonight. 264 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,000 And also, there is another thing now. 265 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:23,000 I don't know if this, I'll probably give 100 up or it's going to be closed. 266 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,000 I don't know if people at books know this or not, 267 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,000 but we know that this is a pretty serious command. 268 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,000 We watch and follow our heads all the time. 269 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:30,000 And they do it in big patterns. 270 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:34,000 And like they change, you see them coming over and gassing up and gassing and going on. 271 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,000 And we, we know it, you know, we've got it. 272 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:37,000 We know what they are. 273 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:38,000 I'm telling you about life. 274 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:39,000 Life is a serious command. 275 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:40,000 They change the gas. 276 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,000 And always in the air, around the clock. 277 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,000 So I don't know if that has anything to do with them or not. 278 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,000 One reason I kind of, you know, start taking a walk there next, 279 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,000 something smells about it, you know. 280 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,000 And we like to, that's just sketching it. 281 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,000 And it's up in the air around the clock. 282 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:59,000 Every 15, 20 minutes you walk out to see when it's coming over. 283 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:00,000 Around the clock. 284 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:01,000 Right. 285 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,000 So, and the brightness in the area, 286 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,000 we're like at six, seven, eight thousand feet up here. 287 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:07,000 And we get a good view of them. 288 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,000 We're watching people come out and gas up up in the air. 289 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,000 And you will see them do the little thing, 290 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,000 one take up from there and take up another way. 291 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,000 And it's amazing how they can do that. 292 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,000 Okay, while this thing is still fresh in your memory, 293 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:22,000 would you get a sketch of the object on a piece of paper? 294 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:23,000 Absolutely. 295 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,000 And we'll get a letter off to you. 296 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:30,000 And if anything happens in the future, 297 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,000 there's possibility it will. 298 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,000 We'd appreciate it if you'd keep some kind of a log on it. 299 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:39,000 And we'll see if we can't find out what the heck is causing all this. 300 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,000 What about these things? 301 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,000 What's causing more? 302 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,000 Well, it kind of sets us to the house. 303 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,000 What I think is, you know, 304 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,000 they landed over there and they came right down to the house here. 305 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:56,000 I don't know if they just want to look it over or what. 306 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,000 And everybody might even know me, 307 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,000 know Butter, and tell James them because they know that we won't play games. 308 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:02,000 We'll shoot them out. 309 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,000 I mean, it grew up in the mountains. 310 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,000 Right. 311 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,000 And everybody knows anybody and they just don't do these things. 312 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,000 Do you have a tape recorder by any chance? 313 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,000 I thought about poking that last night, 314 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,000 but you know, when you're... 315 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,000 I'm a hopper, I'm a pro at poking. 316 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,000 I was so hopper open, I saw what was going on. 317 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:20,000 I didn't even think twice about it. 318 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,000 I had to think of a skin micard to poke myself. 319 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,000 Well, if you have a chance, why get that on tape? 320 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:26,000 I will. 321 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,000 It'll be interesting. 322 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,000 I sure will. 323 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,000 The sound is unusual. 324 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,000 If you heard it, you would realize that it's mechanical 325 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,000 and nothing's human. 326 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,000 And we often, while I'm looking at the top of the major cars and major units 327 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,000 and the different animals and stuff, 328 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:42,000 I don't like that. 329 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:43,000 But I'll do that. 330 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,000 We'll just try to get a sketch up on it and stuff. 331 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:49,000 And like if it comes in any closer or anything, 332 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,000 maybe I'll get a good camera, 333 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,000 I'll try to get a picture of it. 334 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:54,000 Anything like that, right? 335 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,000 Shoot photograph real well. 336 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:58,000 Yeah, but I thought I got 35mm cameras and that shit. 337 00:17:58,000 --> 00:17:59,000 Get a man out. 338 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,000 I don't think a movie camera can do any good. 339 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:02,000 What do you think about that? 340 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:03,000 At night time. 341 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:04,000 It could, yes. 342 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,000 If you get the right setting on it. 343 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:07,000 Well, I load them up in clouds. 344 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,000 I hope they won't hit the cloud. 345 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:10,000 Great. 346 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,000 Well, we sure appreciate you getting to us. 347 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:13,000 They'll call me back. 348 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,000 I don't know if you're going to call me back, 349 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,000 but you know, it's just trying to... 350 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,000 I don't want to just put my phone bill up. 351 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,000 People see these things so often nowadays. 352 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:23,000 It's just trying to... 353 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:24,000 When I do things, 354 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,000 you need to try and make it as much as you can all the time. 355 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:28,000 You don't know. 356 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:29,000 You never know. 357 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,000 What do you do quite a few calls? 358 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,000 Well, right now it's quiet. 359 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,000 We're getting quite a few calls out of Northern Utah. 360 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,000 That's about the only thing that's happening in the states right now. 361 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,000 We don't know exactly what's happening over there. 362 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,000 Well, we're running around in Utah. 363 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,000 Right. 364 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,000 You're almost on the straight line, 365 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,000 right straight across from where they're getting their activity. 366 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:51,000 Well, right. 367 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,000 You know, I'm not sure if you're going to get there. 368 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,000 You're going to get to the straight line 369 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,000 and you're going to get across from where they're getting their activity. 370 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,000 Well, right. 371 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:04,000 You know, there's a big, deep, deep follow down to here 372 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,000 that you could fly a plane in, 373 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,000 and that it can be seen. 374 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,000 You know. 375 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,000 Oh sure. 376 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:11,000 Yeah. 377 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,000 Well, listen, I'll do what I can for you. 378 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:14,000 Thanks a lot. 379 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,000 That's the thing that happens. 380 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:16,000 I'll give it back to you. 381 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:17,000 Right, thanks a lot. 382 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,000 Bye bye. 383 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:19,000 Bye.